Saturday, July 3, 2010

Pride Is More Than Life


Ram Ram to all my Gurjar brothers,
Plz Share your valuable view on this sensitive issue …these views definitely bring positive & fruitful outcome in the perception of young youth who r tryies to be modern under the layer of western culture & strongly condemn that these media & Govt are totally against ( Gurjar Community) our rituals & traditions that we r following since this world came into existence. And I am agree that these laws that been formulated are for Societies & not the societies for the law. Its obvious where ppl like our P.M.Manmohan Singh who mostly spent his time abroad with foreigners definitely a western touch have come in his thinking & Soniya Gandhi who are from foreign origin who does not know about the strong traditions that we are following here in india ..Thats why in our country laws such as I.P.C. 377 has been passed is that justified to a country where Supreme Power like Shri Ram or Seeta Ji have taken Birth ..By this all ill treatment that been happening in india I am strongly feeling absence of our Late Prime Mininster “ Shri Lal Bahadur Shastry ji & Late Shri Vallabh Bhai Patel Ji” “Agar Aaj wo Hote To Humare Desh Ki Tasveer Hi Kuch or Hoti “

At this point of inctence I remembering one thing in Hindi that :
जब हमारा देश आजाद हो गया तो नेहरु ने आपने सलाहकार से पुछा की अब में किया करू तो उसने जवाब दियाकी यदि तुम भारत पर राज करना चाहते हो तो सबसे पहले गुर्जर समाज को ऐसा बना दो जिस तरह कि भेस जो झोड़ में मस्त होकर पड़ी रहती हँ और जब हमे जरूरत होती हँ घास या रोटी देखाकर बहार बुला लेते हँ .यदि गुर्जर आगे आ गए शिक्षा के मामले में और केवल 20% , तो तुम राज नहीं कर पाओगे भारत पर और यही हुआ के हमारी गुर्जर कम्युनिटी के साथ अब तक पक्षपात होता आ रहा हँ .

This is the treatment that we are getting after indepence to till date thats why our ppl are in such a deterioratory position .These media ‘s ppl all r Bihari s & Punjabis who doesn’t have any emotion or feeling towards their honour these ppl want success at any cost they r such ppl who grab the opportunities by auction of their sisters & doughters…so they don’t know what the definition of Honour & Prestige is for some one.

Dosto ppl saying these honour killing shud be stop & i am too in favour that such killing shud be stopped.But why these girls & boys plays with the honour of their community ,their parents........Parents who do hard core struggle in their life for their children & these children openly auction their parents honour & do marriage after running up from home, Is it good for one's prestige .so is that justified, the boy or girl who dont have feeling or emotion towards their community & parents, Then why we are favouring them. Respect,Prestige , Honour & Pride are Four things on which a man life stands nothing left after them ..so Boy or Girl who do indulge in such thing should deal like the way it happened now a days.

Here i am totaly agree with mr.krishan lohmod Bhaiya that-If we will look in the past?

When Raavan picked Sita with force, Lord Rama killed Raavan in Ramayana and abdicated Devi Sita too, to keep his honor in the Society ( and that Rama, the Lord is still worship by the people)
& same thing is repeated in Mahabharta where Draupadi cheer haran cost Kaurvas to their Life ,Here himself Lord Krishna Helps Pandavas to take the revenge from kauravas who plays with the honour of Pandavas..

If Rama & Lord Krishna had not done this will he be worshiped ? & if the same thing done by our brother thn how it can be termed as crime ?
I strongly termed Ankit & Manjeet to be Kalyugi Ram & Krishna & Salute them for showing this world that Pride is more important than life for Gurjars.


Many of my friends too oppose my views who r cover up with a western layer , if they sit with samaj only thn they better realise the values of prestige & honour one shud get after a hard core struggle ..so i wud say "This (killing) is not at all wrong. What is wrong in it? Murder is wrong but this (killing) is socially the best thing that has been done. This cannot be termed as wrong,"

In end i wud just say-

WELLDONE ANKIT AND MANDEEP GUJJAR. GUJJAR COMMUNITY WILL ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR SACRIFICE FOR AGES.

ANYONE WHO THINKS I AM BEING A HARDLINER SHOULD IMAGINE THE MENTAL TORTURE SUFFERED BY THESE TWO GUYS. IF I HAD BEEN IN THAT SITUATION, I MUST HAD DONE THE SAME THING


Regards
Ravi Kasana (ravikasana_1984@yahoo.com)
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75 comments:

  1. mr kasana we didnt agree with u.....................................................i mean we do belive in our prestige nd pride..............................bt at the same time we cant tk anybody's life on the name of prestige.....................................i mean i also dont like the deeds of those gurls who eloped with thier bf's bt killing is nt the solution..........instead of killing we should educate our comm.......................................so that people should understand what they doing...............................i mean there should be good communication between parents nd children..........................................nd fr children who wants to show off that they r modern enough to marry outside comm should concentrate on their studies rather than on love relationships so that their modern thinking reflect in their education nt in their relationships ......................................................................................nd fr ankit nd manjit i sympathise with them i think they hv acted follish nd they spoil their future on the name of thier prestige instead they should cut off all there reltionships with those sisters who didnt care about their prestige...................or they should inculcate all their values nd tradition to those girls so that they would nt hv eloped

    Lakshita Nagar

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  2. I completely Disagree with Ravi Kasana
    Pride never be more than life, never,ever

    Whatever have girls done-it was SHAME,shame on our society.
    but still no body have right to kill anybody-nobody,noone-at any cost.

    Nupur

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  3. no dear m nt agree with u ..
    pride can nt b more thn life ....no one hv any right to takes ones lfe by saying its "pride or honour " no ...

    Kajol Panwar

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  4. dear brother kasana.........
    i do not agree with ur logic or ur ideas.......
    to justify a criminal act is very very unfortunate.........and doubly saddening to know that even our so called educated youth are favouring a wrong trend or practice.........ur talking about ram and ravan is nothing but to justify your regressive thinking .
    you very conveniently forget that we are living in twenty first century and you are talking about the kings who had to be morally upright becauce people emulated him
    zamana ab hazaron saal agey aa gaya hai...............jab aapko suit kare ram ka udaharan de do...ravan ka naam le lo unki sirf ek ek baat ko kyun follow karte ho kya aaj ke saare ladke ram ka charitra aur aadarsh real life me follow karte hain...............
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    problem sirf aapki purush vaadi soch hai...............izzat ka theka sirf ladkiyon ke sar par hai........ladke sab liberties le le kisi ki behn ko bhaga le, chhed de,ek se jyada shadiyan kar le aur kitne marji ke saath illicit relation rakh le.........ma -baap rishtedaron ki naak nahi kat ti katal aur badmaashi ki kamai khaane par bhi hamari aatma shikayat nahi karti

    hamari behn aur beti vyavhaar aur chalan me theek rehni chahiye.........varna usko jaan se maar do.........bhai sahab baat ye hai ki apne apni behn ko kabhi insaan hi nahi samjha aur jeeja naam ke insaan se to aapko na kabhi lagav tha na uski aap kahin ginti maante ho..........isliye in do tarah ke jeevo ko aapki nazar me jeene ka hak hai hi nahi........
    aur vidambna yeh ki aap sarvopari hai.........ye aapki hi duty hai dekhna aur decide karna.....ki maar diya jaaye ya chhod diya jaaye............
    .kisi bhai ko jitna pyaar apni izzat se hai uska ek fraction bhi apni behn se hota to vo ye kadam uthane se pehle zaroor apne bhai ke liye sochti..........ghar me use pyaar mila hota to vo pyaar bahar na dhoondti.................
    jo cheez hamare liye kimti hoti hai use sahej kar rakhne ki zaroorat hoti hai.........kaash in ladkon ne apni behno ko tym se samhala hota!!!!!!!!!!

    Nirmal Dedha

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  5. well said nirmal ji ...........................................................bt i think these boys cant understand all this.........................they can only give lecture on pride bt .......in reality they knew nothing about pride nd tradition.............................................by the way mr.kasana i hv visited ur profile in which i saw so many pictures of late.mr Rajesh pilot.....................................it seems to me that u really appreciate him....................just like we also do......................with due respect to him i would like to ask u that rajesh pilot's son sachin pilot had also married outside the cast with muslim girl y dont u try to give lecture to him about ur pride and all .............or this lecture is only fr girls these high profile people spc boys r nt subjected to ur pride ...........................plz think over it only then give statement like pride is more than life

    Lakshita Nagar

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  6. nice replied nirmal g......
    hii ravi bro.....
    nobdy is against ur thinking regarding PRIDE IS MORE THAN LIFE....but bro...u r using this title in a wrong concern.......we r here to share our ideology so that we can decide wts actually right n wats wrong.......u alwaz boast about gurjars.......hav u ever thought..wt u r doing???????
    u r just trying to separate our gurjar community from whole of the society,,,,bro we hav to change our mentality,,,,so that we can step ahead wid other parts of society......,,,i m highly impressed by the comments given by respected mrs.NIRMAL G......do u hav ny doubt in her comments??????if yes plzz share ur doubts wid us........also,,,,lakshita said.....sachin pilot married to a muslim lady......is it true bro?????????????or she is just tryng to pull u down?????
    nway,,,,finally...i wud again request u to understand the real cause of these incidents instead of taking or supporting such brutual decisions....jaate jaate aapse 1 sawal poochna chahta hu........plzzz answer dena....
    .>>>>>>>>>>>>srikrishna helped her sister subhadra in running away wid her lover arjun....was that wrong???????or sri krishna did not love her sister???????although sri balram n other yadavas reacted same as u.....but they cud understand that ther was nothng wrong....now u plzz tell me >>>srikrishna,subhadra n arjun were uneducated and uncivilized or balram n others were cowards to kill subhadra n arjun?????????

    Anil Gurjar

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  10. mr.anil that is absolutely true.......................i am nt lying to pull any one down......................................by the way anil i dont lie...................................respectable sachin pilot is actually married to sara abdullah sister of chief minister of JK omar abdullah..............................if u hv any doubts u can confirm this frm others

    lakshita

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  11. @reena
    as per ur comment........there should be a criteria.........................
    no......i differ to agree wid u...........had there been a criteria..v wud hav never com to know d truth about such eductd ppl..............we wud hav believd dat anybdy wid a degree wud hav same thinking.................. so in a way it is better to know..............

    my advice to girls will b.............. beware...bade dhokhe hain iss raah mein.

    we need to kno about our past........to know our roots but past ko ek bojh kee tareh nahi dhona chahiye... we need to move forward with the time...... regressive thinking has no place................To be progressive we need to discard stagnant rituals and suicidal tendencies......................

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  12. OVER EDUCATION & OVER ADVANCEMENT
    Dear friends,
    V sorry for the delay in reply so plz excuse me for that ..especially miss Reena Bidhuri who have used some hard words to oppose my views..so if in future any of my friends wants my reply thn plz write to my scrap book so that it will comes to my notice ...

    regards
    Ravi Kasana

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  13. Han mein bhi proud feel karti hun jo bhi hua bahut acha hua..or agey se jo bhi ladki aise apne parents ki izzat ko uchalne ka kaam karegi uske sath bhi aisa hi hona chahiye. or jo bhi other cast ka ladka humari Gurjar community ki izzat ke sath aisa karega uske sath bhi aisa hi hon a chahiye ...........aaj se hazaro saal pehle bhi apne samman ko bachane ke liye bhi bhagwaan Ram ne or bhagwaan krishan ne Raavan or Korvo ko mara tha ..agar same thing inn teen ladko ne ki to isme kiya burai han...mein legal advisor hoon or abhi practice kar rahi kisi ke under mein but jab mein independent advocate ho jaungi to aise ladkiyo ke against mein khadi rahungi or ankit or manjeet or nakul jase bhaio ke favour mein fight karungi....


    After all mene english padhai se jyada social kitbe jyada padhi han & i know well ke social values ki kiya keemat hoti han kisi sammanit aadmi ke liye...

    Neha Gujjar Advocate

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  14. hiiii...ravi bro...
    . first of all i must tell u dat m not fully against ur views....but guys u r highly educated people..think b4 using any title wid any topic...i mean...ur title--PRIDE IS MORE THAN LIFE..is absolutely right n shud b important for human race.........
    i think i know dis legal advisor....ms. neha....n.
    i m shocked to read her comments ....rather pity on her.....she knows very well that her advise wont work on such issues....so no need to boast abt ur posotion n carreir dear neha....also...u said u hav read much of social books....so this is ur knowledge????????giving such comments----humari gurjar community ki ladkiyon k saath jo aisa karega un ladko k saath bhi yahi hoga..i give u 1 qsn,,,if u can answer it,i will trust u for wt u said...u hav read enough social books..ok?n ma qsn is--WHY DID KRISHNA ACCEPT ALL THE GIRLS AS HIS WIVES,WHOME HE RELEASED FROM JARASANDH??????he could hav made them his sisters,,,but y only wives?????ALSO,ARJUN N BHEEM MARRIED MANY GIRLS,WHO WERE NOT WARRIORS,,WERE THEY WRONG????????
    frnds....how easily u people can use sri ram n sri krishna to support ur views......amazing,,,,,,,first u should read abt them n then only dare to connect them to such matters.n who says this honour killing retains our honour???when u cannot b a good brother or father how cud u say u r a SAMMANIT VAYAKTI???????I will continue to write in,,,but for now,byee ,,,n thnxxx to all of u frnds.....

    Anil Gurjar

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  15. hii ravi bro.....
    nobdy is against ur thinking regarding PRIDE IS MORE THAN LIFE....but bro...u r using this title in a wrong concern.......we r here to share our ideology so that we can decide wts actually right n wats wrong.......u alwaz boast about gurjars.......hav u ever thought..wt u r doing???????
    u r just trying to separate our gurjar community from whole of the society,,,,bro we hav to change our mentality,,,,so that we can step ahead wid other parts of society......,,,i m highly impressed by the comments given by respected mrs.NIRMAL G......do u hav ny doubt in her comments??????if yes plzz share ur doubts wid us........also,,,,lakshita said.....sachin pilot married to a muslim lady......is it true bro?????????????or she is just tryng to pull u down?????
    nway,,,,finally...i wud again request u to understand the real cause of these incidents instead of taking or supporting such brutual decisions....jaate jaate aapse 1 sawal poochna chahta hu........plzzz answer dena....
    .>>>>>>>>>>>>srikrishna helped her sister subhadra in running away wid her lover arjun....was that wrong???????or sri krishna did not love her sister???????although sri balram n other yadavas reacted same as u.....but they cud understand that ther was nothng wrong....now u plzz tell me >>>srikrishna,subhadra n arjun were uneducated and uncivilized or balram n others were cowards to kill subhadra n arjun?????????
    Anil Gurjar

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  16. Dear Anil,& all
    That means we shud give Liberation to our Bhen & Beti to do whatever they want whether it go against the honour & prestige of our cast./our parents/our society.. Children shud always remember that
    1) We are from parents & not the Parents from us...
    2) Parents 's Wish & Desire shud be everything for a child..
    Dosto I assure you now such meanless activity spcly in our community shud be minimal after The wazirpur incidence now after such cases .ppl feel horrified to attack the honour of our Gurjar community. Dosto if you refresh your memory you will find that we got our independence only by practicing the violence act..not the way what mahatma gandhi thought... waise bhi you have heared a proverb- (Jooto ke Bhoot Baato se Baaj Nahi Aate).

    Friends if u give light to our past history u will find that pride is always a priority over a life for Indians specialy for Gurjars....
    If a boy or a girl do indulge in intercast marriage thn they shud no longer remain the pure Gurjar & then they dont have right to prefix or suffix Gurjar with their name..
    People who are against my views are morever under the influence of over education & over advancement they dont know what the value of a pride for a respectful man in a society ,so plz think over this before commenting against my views
    On this changing environment i remmebering a Manoj Kumar film 's Yaadgar dialogue- "WAH RE KALYUG KIYA KEHNE TERE”

    Now come to Jarasandh incidence, whn Lord krishna saved 16000 girls from Jarasandh the cruel daemon ...thn these girls asked Lord krishna who will now marry the girls whose dignity have been diluted from the black shadow of jarsandh so in order to save the honour of these 16000 girls Lord Krishna had married thm coz there was no other way that justified that situation.
    my Title "PRIDE IS MORE THAN LIFE "is fully justified with this matter that we are acrosssing these days.
    well bro i hav connected the current scenario with Lord Rama ‘s era just to highlight that from ancient times Pride is always a priority for Indians over a life.


    Bro I wanna ask you & other ppl who are against the way I think that the person who tryies to elope our sisters & daughters & openly attack on the honour of our Gurjar samaj shud we hav to worship them ..?

    Ravi Kasana

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  17. Dear Anil,
    That means we shud give Liberation to our Bhen & Beti to do whatever they want whether it go against the honour & prestige of our cast./our parents/our society.. Children shud always remember that
    1) We are from parents & not the Parents from us...
    2) Parents 's Wish & Desire shud be everything for a child..
    Dosto I assure you now such meanless activity spcly in our community shud be minimal after The wazirpur incidence now after such cases .ppl feel horrified to attack the honour of our Gurjar community. Dosto if you refresh your memory you will find that we got our independence only by practicing the violence act..not the way what mahatma gandhi thought... waise bhi you have heared a proverb- (Jooto ke Bhoot Baato se Baaj Nahi Aate).

    Friends if u give light to our past history u will find that pride is always a priority over a life for Indians specialy for Gurjars....
    If a boy or a girl do indulge in intercast marriage thn they shud no longer remain the pure Gurjar & then they dont have right to prefix or suffix Gurjar with their name..
    People who are against my views are morever under the influence of over education & over advancement they dont know what the value of a pride for a respectful man in a society ,so plz think over this before commenting against my views
    On this changing environment i remmebering a Manoj Kumar film 's Yaadgar dialogue- "WAH RE KALYUG KIYA KEHNE TERE”

    Ravi Kasana

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  18. Now come to Jarasandh incidence, whn Lord krishna saved 16000 girls from Jarasandh the cruel daemon ...thn these girls asked Lord krishna who will now marry the girls whose dignity have been diluted from the black shadow of jarsandh so in order to save the honour of these 16000 girls Lord Krishna had married thm coz there was no other way that justified that situation.
    my Title "PRIDE IS MORE THAN LIFE "is fully justified with this matter that we are acrosssing these days.
    well bro i hav connected the current scenario with Lord Rama ‘s era just to highlight that from ancient times Pride is always a priority for Indians over a life.


    Bro I wanna ask you & other ppl who are against the way I think that the person who tryies to elope our sisters & daughters & openly attack on the honour of our Gurjar samaj shud we hav to worship them ..?
    Ravi Kasana

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  19. Friends who are against the way I think that the person who tryies to elope our sisters & daughters & openly attack on the honour of our Gurjar samaj shud we hav to worship those bastards.................. ..?

    Ravi Kasana

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  20. y u always talks about ur behan beti.........................y dont u include ur bhai nd beta with that......................................................................mr kasana i myself dont like the idea of intercaste marriage bt i also dont like the killings of these people on the name of honour.........................................................kisi ko marna hi ek matr tarika hai kya.................................... aap main apni behan beti ya bhai ko samjhane bhujane ki kabiliyat nahin rakhte kya................................................mujhe nahi lagta jin parivaro main parents or baccho ko beech good communication hai wahan par bache ksi our ke sath bhagne ki sochte hai............................................................................sanskar hamein yeh nahi sikhate ki hum kisi ka katal kare..............balki agar koi itna hi sanskar wala hai toh usse aapne ghar main bhi aaise sanskar inculcate karne chaiye................................taki unke bache aaisa kadam uthya hi na............................................kisi ko maar kar use justify karna yeh sanskar nahi hai...................................nd plz do rply aap sirf apni baat karke chale jate hai dusro ki baat ka jawab dena bhi zaruri hai

    lakshita

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  21. Dear friends ,don’t take me into wrong way by considering that I am only against the girls..I too oppose our boys who do indulge in such meanless activities that hampers the integrity of our community….

    Miss Lakshita, &( kind Attention mr. Anil) -:
    You have talked about Sachin Pilot ji,That he have done his marriage outside his community,but for ur info Sara pilotJi, Whom he have tied is a Muslim Khatana Gujjar i.e. Farrukh Abdullah is a Muslim Gujjar….so miss Lakshita how you can say so…? Or agar Sachin ji ne other cast mein kiya hota to definetly meri views wo hi rehtey jo kisi common man ke liye han………

    Friends don’t you think Ppl who are indulging in same gotra marriage are ruining our sacred brother-sister relation.so freinds jo log iss pavitra ristey ki hamiyat ko nahi samajhte unhe to khule aam fasi per latka dena chahiye but u ppl r favouring thm….

    Jo Monika khari ne ghar se bhagkar shadi ki or wo bhi intercast agar yehi situation humare sath humare family mein hoti to hum mein se koi bhi aise baadi badi baate nahi karta so Dosto doosro ko salah dena yahan unke kiye per comment karna bahut aasan han per jab yehi cheez hum per gujarti han to tab pata lagta han…
    Dosto Humara Gujjar samaj ek sabhya samaj han ,agar humari bhen beti /offcourse for boys too jo ghar se bhagkar shadi kar lete han to yeh black mole pedhi der pedhi humara peecha karta rehta han jiska khamiaja humari family ko pay karna padhta han…..

    Miss Lakshita you & other ppl saying that ppl who do indulge in such meanless activities like intercast marriage,same gotra marriage or any other evil.they are having lack of education…but I wud say yeh jo padhe likhe log han jinhone English padhai kuch jyada hi ki han yehi humari values ko bantadhar karne mein mein sabse aaagey han..coz such ppl gives more importance to their taste rather thn the values ….

    Ravi Kasana

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  22. When u ppl see current scenario u will find that Ppl who consider themselves to be over educated & over advance are much more into destroying the community‘s heritage…such ppl never counts any drawbacks of doing such evil & they don’t have any emotion with their family/community..
    Miss lakshita & all,I wud like to ask u why we need education & what is the correct definition of education……?
    In my views , Education is channel through which we get or earn social values & that teach us to respect wish & desires of our parents…whether they are wrong & not too oppose thm..

    Overall that gives us the path to attain the salvation…& give some moral to us
    Sanskaar ke Bina saari education useless han
    But now these days ppl r much more focused into becoming doctors or engineers by reading these English books that gives nothing regarding the values & such ppl consider it to be their education , I termed it to be a baseless education we are getting these days which of no use if we see it in real sense….

    Ravi Kasana

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  23. I have many ppl who don’t even have put a single step in school or colleges but they r the ocean of True Gyan i.e they are fully aware of the social values, they know everything abt Ramayan, Mahabharat,Geeta that we don’t know…so educated kon hue …….? Jyada door jaane ki bhi jarrorat nahi han aap apne Baba (Dada ji) ya Dadi ji ki ho dekh lo..Jinhe hum log anpad or gawar samajhte han..per Adhyatmik or Sanskarik ke tor per dekhe to wo humse kayi guna jyada advance or rich han,Inhe Jindagi ke asli mayne pata han…per humara yeh bahut bada durbhagya han ke hum log unke iss gyan ko lene ki bajaye western Culture ( boyfriend-girl friend relation) ki taraf jyada agrsar han or usse hi follow kartey han… or humari jaise soch rakhne walo ko backward samjhteh han ….to aap log isse kiya kahenge…?
    Or yahin karan han humari Yuva pedhi patan ki or chal rahi han……

    So miss Lakshita don’t relate such incidence with the education but yes we can relate thm with the social values that hav been depleting day by day…..due to lack of values,sanskaar our youth are commiting such meanless activites & this English Padhai is behind in all such activites . Its okey we r into such education but we are not suppose to forget our sanskaar jo ki hume virasat ke roop mein apne poorvajo se mile han… here I wud like to highlike that in india we have Gurukuls where the real & true face of life shown so we must have to encourage & promote such school system in order to prevent our community from this hard Betrayel called western culture…

    Ravi Kasana

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  24. Miss Nupur & miss Kajal,-:
    How can u say that pride cant be more than life..from ancient times i.e. from Satyug era to till date Pride is always having a Priority over a Life..But todays our Modern youth not bother to understand that what the value of a Pride for a respectful man in a society……

    • Raja Mordhwaj ne apne Vachan or Samman ki raksha ke liye Apne Bete ka Sir katkar Bhagaan shri Krishan ji ke Sher ko jimaya tha..isse hum kehte han “Vachan Palan”

    • Mahabharat mein bhi Draupadi ke apmaan ka badla Bhagwaan shri Krishan ne or Pandavo ne hazaro or lakho ko maarkar Korvo se liya tha or isse hum kehta han “Samman Raksha”
    That means from ancient times Pride is always more than a Life…

    Or yahin Ankit or manjit ne bhi apne or apne Parivaar ke samman ke liye kiya so nothing wrong in it

    Mahabharat ke run bhoomi mein arjun ki mano isthiti Bilkul aap logo jaise thi..jo ki apne sage sambandhiyo ke khilaf hathiyar uthane ke liye mana karta han..Per bhagwaan Shri Krishan ji ke updesho se Arjun ke Gyan Chankshu khul gaye the or wo Shri Krishan ji ke updesho ka palan karta han…,…………..

    “Geeta ka path kijey apko meri sari baatey ache dhang se samaj mein aa jayengi”

    So,these above two incident gives light that for Chatriye like Gujjars the following proverb is famous & validate “ Pran jaye Per Vachan Na Jaye” yeh parampara ancient times se chali aa rahi jiska favour khud Bhagaan na bhi kiya han

    Ravi Kasana

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  25. Now miss Nirmal ,-:& all
    You & other ppl are much more talking abt this 21st century..i wanna ask u what this 21st century have given to us just all around crime..crime & only crime…Its not a development we are facing these days but a bloody demotion of the Values ,Sanskar ……………..humari Sanskriti or Shabhyata khatam karne mein iss 21st century ka bahut bada yogdaan rahega………..

    Ek samay tha jab Shri Ram ji ne apne Pitah ke Vachan or Samman ki laaz rakhne ke liye 14 varsh ka vanvaas kata or ek yeh samay han humari 21st century jisme aajki generation apne parents ki wish ke against ghar se bhagkar shadi karte han….
    Yeh apki 21st century ki hi den han ke 6-7saal pehle Railiram ki ladki ne property ke lalach mein aakar apne husband ke sath milkar apne pure parivaar ko yahan tak ke chote bacho ko bhi nahi baksha sabko maut ki neend sulah diya & even boys too doing the same things these days so that’s what this 21st century had given us. At this point ,,I am remembering one song that justified the current prevailing scenario i.e.“ Ram Chandra keh gaye siya se ke aisa kalyug aaye ga”

    Or bhagwaan ne bhi har yug mein avatar lekar paapiyo ka nash kiya han or iss yug mein bhi Kalki roop mein avtara lekar fir se papiyo or dharam ka nash karne walo ka khatma karenge…but I am horrified ke kahin aisa na ho ke aap jaise soch rakhne wale log unper hi court mein cash na kar de….or alag se ek nayi community banakar taiyar na karde ke- (Lord Ram Stop this Killing)


    Friends Humari yeh Gujjar community Honourable cast han among other cast or yahi karan han ke Bhagwaan khud humari cast mein janam lene ke liye lalayit rehte han….Bhagwaan Dev Narayan ji jo bhagwaan Vishnu ke avatar the unhone Gujjar kul mein Mata sadhu Gujjari ke yahan Janam lekar humare samman ko Goravanvit kiya han………Sikho ke Guru shri Guro Govind singh ji Gujjar the jinhone Mata Gujjari ke yahan janam lia…….for ur info…..Naina Devi katha, Amarnath Katha, Pushkar Katha or na jaane kitni God related kathaye humari community se kahin na kahin relate karti han , Per aisa lagta han ke agar logo ki soch aap jasie hoti chali gayi to I don’t think ke Bhagwaan will no longer bliss our community with their devine presence….

    If still aap logo ki soch mere views ke against han to I wud just say you all r more than God…

    Ravi kasana

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  26. Now miss Nirmal ,-:& all
    You & other ppl are much more talking abt this 21st century..i wanna ask u what this 21st century have given to us just all around crime..crime & only crime…Its not a development we are facing these days but a bloody demotion of the Values ,Sanskar ……………..humari Sanskriti or Shabhyata khatam karne mein iss 21st century ka bahut bada yogdaan rahega………..

    Ek samay tha jab Shri Ram ji ne apne Pitah ke Vachan or Samman ki laaz rakhne ke liye 14 varsh ka vanvaas kata or ek yeh samay han humari 21st century jisme aajki generation apne parents ki wish ke against ghar se bhagkar shadi karte han….
    Yeh apki 21st century ki hi den han ke 6-7saal pehle Railiram ki ladki ne property ke lalach mein aakar apne husband ke sath milkar apne pure parivaar ko yahan tak ke chote bacho ko bhi nahi baksha sabko maut ki neend sulah diya & even boys too doing the same things these days so that’s what this 21st century had given us. At this point ,,I am remembering one song that justified the current prevailing scenario i.e.“ Ram Chandra keh gaye siya se ke aisa kalyug aaye ga”

    Or bhagwaan ne bhi har yug mein avatar lekar paapiyo ka nash kiya han or iss yug mein bhi Kalki roop mein avtara lekar fir se papiyo or dharam ka nash karne walo ka khatma karenge…but I am horrified ke kahin aisa na ho ke aap jaise soch rakhne wale log unper hi court mein cash na kar de….or alag se ek nayi community banakar taiyar na karde ke- (Lord Ram Stop this Killing)

    Ravi Kasana

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  27. Now miss Nirmal ,-:& all
    You & other ppl are much more talking abt this 21st century..i wanna ask u what this 21st century have given to us just all around crime..crime & only crime…Its not a development we are facing these days but a bloody demotion of the Values ,Sanskar ……………..humari Sanskriti or Shabhyata khatam karne mein iss 21st century ka bahut bada yogdaan rahega………..

    Ek samay tha jab Shri Ram ji ne apne Pitah ke Vachan or Samman ki laaz rakhne ke liye 14 varsh ka vanvaas kata or ek yeh samay han humari 21st century jisme aajki generation apne parents ki wish ke against ghar se bhagkar shadi karte han….
    Yeh apki 21st century ki hi den han ke 6-7saal pehle Railiram ki ladki ne property ke lalach mein aakar apne husband ke sath milkar apne pure parivaar ko yahan tak ke chote bacho ko bhi nahi baksha sabko maut ki neend sulah diya & even boys too doing the same things these days so that’s what this 21st century had given us. At this point ,,I am remembering one song that justified the current prevailing scenario i.e.“ Ram Chandra keh gaye siya se ke aisa kalyug aaye ga”

    Or bhagwaan ne bhi har yug mein avatar lekar paapiyo ka nash kiya han or iss yug mein bhi Kalki roop mein avtara lekar fir se papiyo or dharam ka nash karne walo ka khatma karenge…but I am horrified ke kahin aisa na ho ke aap jaise soch rakhne wale log unper hi court mein cash na kar de….or alag se ek nayi community banakar taiyar na karde ke- (Lord Ram Stop this Killing)

    Ravi Kasana

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  28. Friends Humari yeh Gujjar community Honourable cast han among other cast or yahi karan han ke Bhagwaan khud humari cast mein janam lene ke liye lalayit rehte han….Bhagwaan Dev Narayan ji jo bhagwaan Vishnu ke avatar the unhone Gujjar kul mein Mata sadhu Gujjari ke yahan Janam lekar humare samman ko Goravanvit kiya han………Sikho ke Guru shri Guro Govind singh ji Gujjar the jinhone Mata Gujjari ke yahan janam lia…….for ur info…..Naina Devi katha, Amarnath Katha, Pushkar Katha or na jaane kitni God related kathaye humari community se kahin na kahin relate karti han , Per aisa lagta han ke agar logo ki soch aap jasie hoti chali gayi to I don’t think ke Bhagwaan will no longer bliss our community with their devine presence….

    If still aap logo ki soch mere views ke against han to I wud just say you all r more than God…
    Ravi Kasana

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  29. Miss Reena Bidhuri:
    It seems that u r much & much more advance girl we have in our gujjars so Hip Hip Hurray for you…

    Miss Reena ur way of leading life is totally differ frm the Sanskaars. So u can not understand my above said words coz u ppl r fully covered up with western layer which cannt be washed up frm any acid, so it is worth talking to you….

    Monika khari & Khushi too bears the same state of mind who never tryies to understand her Parents / her community & they didn’t have any care abt the dignity of their Parents,their society……..so if such girls don’t have any emotion towards their family & society then why we PPl r more devoted towards such girls……..? so Such Ppl r the one who made their Parents ,brothers to commit such crimes…………

    Miss Reena Bidhuri & all , who r against my views,1st know abt the Gujjar community & its History & tryies to analyse the Royality Behind Gujjars. Only thn come for the discussion…..




    Dear all my friends, In end I wud suggest Just Suggest that u all plz boycott all such useless movies that are leaving negative / bad impact on our mind & that are turning/attracting our minds towards western traits & that’s at we are on….

    Its my personal request to u all plz followed the movies that are given by Mr. Manoj Kumar specially the “YADGAAR” movie that not only give moral to us but also shows the true face of life, only then our mind wud be centrallised………Friends who are now agree with my views thn plz cast your vote here & be its member

    http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#CommPollVote?cmm=103658438&pct=1280296554&pid=763322570&msg=1


    Regards
    Ravi Kasana

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  30. kasana ji aap ne to kamaal kar diya har baat ko justified kar rhe ho .ab sara abdullah gujjar ho gyi................................................................................par aap toh education ko hi kharab bta rhe ho...............i would like to ask u ki jo wazirpur incidence main girls thi kya woh highly educated thi..................................aap ko apna jawab khud hi mil jayega....................................fr ur kind information am nt in a support of intercast marriage ..................................par aapki is talibani thinking ke bhi khillaf houn main

    Lakshita

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  31. रवि दोस्त ....
    आप बार बार comparison करते हे आजादी की लड़ाई और आज की एस situation की ,सोच की ,कि गुज्जर्स को बहेन बेटियों क साथ ऐसा करना चाहिए या नही ..दोस्त उस लड़ाई में और आज की situation में जमीं आसमा का difference हे ...वो लड़ाई आजादी के लिए थी और आज जो बाते चल रही हे ..वो विचारो की हे ....सोच की हे ...अपने आप को बदलने की और समाज को बदलने की हे ..संस्कारों के आभाव को आप नाक और इज्जत का सवाल बना रहे हो ..proud का सवाल बना रहे हो ..जब हम वैचारिक रूप से ही आजाद नही हे तो केसे आजाद मन जा सकता हे हमको ....किस आजादी की बात कर रहे हो आप ....क्या आजादी की लड़ाई में गुज्जर सिर्फ गुज्जरों के लिए ,पंजाबी सिर्फ पुन्जबियो के लिए ,और बाकि सभी जातीय सिर्फ अपनी अपनी जातियों के लिए लड़ी थी ...?सबसे पहला धरम मानवता हे बाकि सब बाद में |

    शील भाई आपके ब्लॉग पर जो भी जानकारी होती हे ...काफी प्रेरक होती हे.


    we proud on u sheel sir and lakshita ji...........keep it up.......

    रवि जी एक तरफ आप पूजनीय सिख गुरु जी को गुज्जर बता रहे हो मुस्लिम भाइयो को गुज्जर बता रहे हो और दूसरी तरफ जाति की बाते भी कर रहे हो एस तरह तो राजपूत भी गुज्जर जाति से सम्बंधित मिल जाएँगे .फिर ये जातिगत सोच क्यों ?
    इसका मतलब अगर ये शादी मुस्लिम्स या सिख में हो तो आपको कोई प्रॉब्लम नही हे| दोस्त अपनी सोच का दायरा बदलना होगा हमें |

    Sunil Nagar

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  32. ABHI AADARNIYE SADASYO
    Hum sabhi antar-jatiye vivah ke khilaf hai,,,,,,,.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ab agar hum sab ek soch rakhte hue bhi aapas me matbhed paida kar rahe hai to ye hamari soch ka str darshati hai,,,,jo kitni choti hai jo baat ko sulzhane ki bajaye ulzha rahi hai,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Ravi bhai,,, sunil bhai, lakshita ji,,,,nupur ji or sabhi dosto,,,,,,,,,agar is blog me hum aapas me vaad-vivaad na karte hue is antar-jatiye vivah se apne samaj ko bachane ka tarika suzhaye to zyada behtar hoga,,,,,,,,,,kripiya apni soch ka nazariya badle or mudde ko na bhatkne de,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    Mai aasha karta hu ki sabhi aadarniye or sammanit sadsyo ki taraf se ab sirf vahi jawab milenge jo hamare samaj ke utthan or hit me honge.


    dhanyavad
    Jai Hind

    Vikash Choudhary

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  33. Muzhe lagta hai ki agar hum apne bado se vaicharik roop se jud jayenge to ye samsya humare samaj se dur ho jayegi,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Abhi jo haalat hai unse to yahi pratit ho raha hai ki humare or hamare bado ke beech me vaicharik matbhed bahut zyada bad gaya hai,,,,,,,,,,,jisko dur karne par hi hume is samsya se chutkara milega............

    Koi agar meri baat se sehmat na ho to apne vichar prakat kar sakta hai..............

    Ye na thi hamaari qismat k visaal-e-yaar hota
    Agar aur jeete rehte yehi intazaar hota
    Huey mar k ham jo ruswa huey kiyuN na gharq-e-darya
    Na kabhi janaazah uThta na kahiN mazaar hota......................

    vikash chd

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  34. i do agree with both vikas nd sunil...................................bt the thing is that ki mr kasana is blaming education fr all the mis happening .....................thats nt correct unka yeh comment over education si responsible fr intercast marraige................................................................................... mujhe sahi nahi lga ...................................nd thanx sunil fr supporting

    Lakshita

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  35. Samsya ko dhayan me rakhte hue agar mai kuch kahu to sirf itna kahunga ki,,,, Kisi ki jaan lelena ya kisi ko jaan se maar dena us samsya ka samadhan nahi ho sakta,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


    antar-jatiye vivah sirf siksha ya asiksha ka parinaam nahi hai,,,,,,,,,,is kaam ke piche sab se bada haath hai pariwar me mahoul ka,,,,,,,, bado ka apne choto se bartav ka,,,,,,,,,,,,pariwar me koun kitna kisse matlab rakhta hai is baat ka,,,,,,,,,,,


    Ravi bhai jahan tak jawli ki baat hai,,,,, mere saamne 2 udahran hai jinme jawli ke logo ne apni 2 betio ko antar-jatiye vivah karne ki vajah se maar diya,,,,,,,,, agar isliye aap is kaam ko sahi bata rahe ho to bhi aap hi galat ho.............


    or agar sirf siksha hi iska kaaran hai to ravi bhai aap kam sikshit nahi ho,,,,,,,,,,,,aap ka number bhi fir jawli me lagne wala hai,,,,,,,,


    Meri baat ka koi galat matlab na nikale or sahi disha me sahi baat ko lekar jaaye,,,,,,,,,,

    agar kuch galat likha ho to shama kare....


    Dhanayavad
    Jai Hind

    Vikash Chd(seelampur)

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  36. Miss lakshita & all my dear friends,
    Pehle aap mere previous comments ko ache tarh se padho or samjho tabhi aap mere se jawab talbi kiya karo…..

    Miss Lakshita its 100% fact & truth ke Sara Abdullah Gujjar han isme koi dohraya nahi han….miss lakshita or mr. sunil shayad aapko nahi pata ke doosre dharmo mein bhi Gujjar han or yeh Gujjar wo han jo kisi na kisi karno ki wajah se apna dharm badalna pada but above all they bears pure gujjar blood & they do marry in their own Gujjar cast….aap logo ka mujhe nahi pata per mein mein doosre dharma ke gujjaro ko apne se alag nahi samajhta hoon or nahi kisi ko samajhna chahiye…….

    Miss Lakshita aapne mujhe samajhne mein galti ki han mein education ko kharab nahi bata raha hoon balki aisi education ko jisme sanskkaar naam ki cheez na ho mein uss education ko bycott karne ke liye keh raha hoon…..jaisi ki inn dino hume mil rahi han…..Dosto mein bhi aisi hi English education ka hissa reh chukka hoon & I am much aware ke aajkal ki generation school or college mein kiya karne jaati han………Maa- Baap sochte han ke humare Bate ya Beti school ya college mein Sanskarik or Kaamyaab banne ke liye gaye han per masa allah unki chahetey saputra or saputriya apne girlfriend or boyfriend ke sang parko mein or malls mein apni degree puri kar rahe han……….so dear friends apne dil per hath rakhkar kehna kiya mein galat hoon…or na jaane humme se kitne log iss western sabhyata ko follow kar apne jeevan mein utar rakha han…..

    Ravi Kasana

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  37. OVER EDUCATION & OVER ADVANCEMENT
    Abhi mene kuch din pehle HT City mein padha tha ke kiss tarah humare youth college mein jane ke liye modern banne ki aad mein tarah tarah ke designing kapdo per zor de rahe the…unke .kapde bhi dekho jisse dekhkar khud angrej log bhi Sharma jaye ..to dosto apko lagta han ke aaj ke youth collegeo mein padhne ke liye jaate han..unke liye to yeh college kisi picnic spot se kam nahi han…jo sirf college enjoyment ke liye aate han naaki shiksha lene ke liye…….

    Miss lakshita aise western sanskaar diye han aapki iss modern education ne humare youth ko jinke hatho mein kal bharat ke baagdor aane wali han..

    Aaj se 20-30 saal pehle intercast marriage or same gotra marriage jaise case nahi the kyonki uss samay aapki yeh western education nahi thi……or uss samay humare school or collego mein sanskaaro per zor diya jaata tha……….

    Miss Lakshita yeh aapki modern education ki hi den han ke aaj ki generation khule aam apne parents ko oppose karti han or bhagkar doosri cast mein shadi karti han……..

    Dost Sunil, lagta han aapne mere comment theek se nahi padhe han tabhi aap aisa keh rahe han………..i am not comparing indepence rebel with the current scenario….mein to aapko Vachan Palan or Samman Raksha ki Ahmiyat ke bare mein samjhane ki koshish kar raha hoon ke kisi sammanit vyakti ke liye uske Samman ki kiya ahmiyat hoti han…jiski liye wo apne jeevan ki ya fir apne blood relation ke balidaan bhi kar sakta han…………

    Mr. Sunil & all , mein aap logo se puchna chahunga ke aap logo ke liye Samman ki mout ki jyada ahmiyat han ya fir Aisi zindagi ki jo Apmaan or Kalank se bhari hui ho..?

    In m view “Zindagi wo hi jo samman ke sath ji jaye”

    RAvi KAsana

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  38. Dost sunil, apke vichar mein Gujjaro ko Monika jaise bheno ke sath aisa nahi karna chahiye per jab Monika jaise Bhene ghar se bhag bhag kar doosri cast mein shadi karke apne parivaar ki izzat ka bantadhar karti han…. kiya inn jaise ladkiyo ko yeh sab karna chahiye……………?
    Agar aisi ladkiya or ladke apne parivaar ki izzat or samman ka khyal nahi rakhte to hume bhi kiyon inki itni tarafdari karte han..?
    Dost sunil, jo monika khari ne kiya ussi se motivate hokar parivaar ki do doosri ladkiya bhi aise kar chuki thi…coz they know ke agar monika ke aisa karne per kisi ne kuch nahi kahan to humara hi koi kiya bigaad sakta han or monika ke nakshe kadam per wo chal padi jo rahi sahi parivaar ki izzat thi wo inn dono ladkiyon ne utar di……….Monika khari jaise ladkiya ghar se bhagkar shadi karke doosri ladkiyon ko badhava deti han…………..

    So my dear friends Sunil & other,
    Agar Ankit or Manjit ..monika or uske husband ko pehle hi sabak sekha dete to uski doosri bhene aisa nahi karti…per der se hi sahi unhone sabit kar diya ke Gujjaro ke liye samman sabse upper han….or Agey se humare community ke youth aise meanless activity mein indulge hone se pehle 100 baar sochenge……or Yeh chetawni doosri community ke logo ko ke humari cast ki izzat per hath dalne se pehle ek baar Ankit or Manjit ko jarrur yaad kar lena ………….

    Dost Sunil aap badlaav ki baat kar rahe ho per mein aapse kehna chahunga ke joy yeh badlaav aajkal chal raha han jisse aap lana chaha rahe ho …yehi asli nash ki zad han…………….so apne purane riti rewazo ko mat bhoolo yeh humari asli roots han….inke bager hum zero han just like a Man without Soul
    Ravi Kasana

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  39. Dost sunil aapke baato se lagta han ke maa baap ko apni aulad ko fully azadi de deni chahiye chahe wo kuch bhi kare ( taaki humare samaj ki ladkiya khule aam parko mein or malls mein apne boyfriends ke sath openly ghume) but bro hum Gujjar han not Punjabi so apki yeh thinking Gujjar samaj per applicable nahi han….

    Sunil ji, Hamara jeevan ek resham ki dor se bandha hua han jisme Maa or Baap do ganthe han or aulade mala mein peroye hue moti han,,, agar moti mala ke andar hi rahe to theek rahega nahi to khule hue moti ki kimat bazaar mein kuch bhi nahi han………….


    Sunil Nagar ji, lagta han aap Sheel Gujjar ji ki bahut bade fan han tabhi aisi baate kar rahe han…wo bhi intercast marriage ko kaafi promote karte han…wo kehte han ke agar unke bache doosri cast mein marriage karna chahenge to unhe koi bhi kasi bhi problem nahi han…kitne bade Gujjar Hiteshi han wo jo ek taraf to apne naam ke sath Gujjar jod rakha han or doosri taraf intercast marriage ko badhava dekar Gujjaro ko naamo nishan mitana mein lage han…what a great philosophy they have…..mind blowing .”True Gujjar ke Khitab ke kaabil han han aapke Sheel Gujjar ji,. Dosto Sheel Gujjar ji. Ne jo apna blog banaya han wo sirf waha wahi lootne ke liye naaki Gujjaro ka udhar karne ke liye ..yehi reasone han wo apne blog ki advertisement har community mein or har kisi ke profile mein kar rahe han….Unke Blog mein apko sirf wo hi comments milegi jo unki soch ke favour favour mein ..jo unke thinking ke against likhne ki koshish karte han unke comments ko to humare sheel ji approve hi nahi karte han to dosto apne blog per to Sheel bhaisaab ne monopoly chala rakhi han jo iss baat ka pratik hank e wo sirf apni prshansa ke hi ichchuk han na ki gujjaro ke upliftment….

    Ravi Kasana

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  40. Bhai Vikash, Jab hum samaaj ke taane or tarah tarah ki baato ka saamna karenge jab yeh sab badi badi or achi achi baate dhari ki dhari reh jaati han…
    Jo ankit or manjit ne kiya wo aise logo ke liye sabak han jo Gujjar cast ki izzat per hawi hote han

    Vikash ji, jab paani sir se upper chala jata han to iss killing tool ke alava humare paas koi doosra vikalp nahi bachta han….. dosto Ankit or Manjit ke man ki isthtiti kiya rahi hogi jab unki bhene ek ke baad ek ghar se bhagi hongi or bihario se shadi ki hogi kitne sharam ki baat rahi hogi …kitna bada pressure raha hoga unper ..iss cheez ko apne upper imagine karke delkho ke kitna bada boz inn ladko ne face kiya hoga…..

    Bhai vikash, Jawli mein ab kisi ki himmat aisa karne ki nahi hogi or na hi ab koi teesra case intercast marriage ka arise hoga..humare Gaon ne aise ladko or ladkiyo ke liye missal kayam ki han ki jo aise meanless activity mein shamil hoga uska anzaam aisa hi hoga….& Ihave proud on my village chahe aap kuch bhi socho…
    Or yeh sirf ek Gaon ki kahani nahi han balki har gujjar bahamulik area or gaon ki kahani han chahe wo aapka gaon hi kiyon na ho…agar apke gaon mein bhi kuch issi tarah ki ghatna ho to aapke gaon wale bhi wo hi karenge ho Jawli ne kiya ..or yehi puri tarah se cast ke honour mein justify han…..dosto ek cheez mein apko or kehna chahunga ki agar aap jase padhe likhe soch w rakhne walo ki tadaad jyada ho gayi to wo din door nahi han jab humare bhai or bhene sirf intercast marriage hi kiya karenge or uss din se samjho humare Gujjar samaj ke patan shuru ho gaya…………

    Ravi Kasana

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  41. Bhai Vikash, mein aapse is vishah mein puri tarah se sehmat hoon ke hum log bekaar ki bhesh kar rahe han jo ki kabhi na khatam hone wali han….Humara main motive hona chahiye ke hum apni community ko intercast marriage se kasie bachaya jaye………..to brother ,iss regarding mein sirf yehi kahunga ke hume sabse pehle apni westernized soch ko badalkar apne sanskaaro ko apnana hoga jo humse alag hote jaa rahe han..or doosra hume apne parents ki aagya ka paalan karna hoga tabhi hum iss se devil se nizat pa sakte han…..so in end…



    Jai Gurjar Jai Bharat

    Regards
    Ravi Kasana
    Vill & Post- Jawli

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  42. mr kasana fr ur kind information sara abdullaha's mother is nt an indian she is foreigner nd.............am nt against mr. sachin pilot ................infact i highly admire him ...........he is my role model bt am just telling u that u r taking this issue to another way...........................nd as long as u think only english speaking people r ............ violating the rules nd norms of society then i beg to differ frm u becoz in villages also nt so much eduacted people indulges in these kind of activities ......................................................................bt under the cover without letting any one know...................nd with same village boys r girls am sure u would be aware of it ............................so plz dont blame modern eduaction fr this......................................................plz

    lakshita

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  43. as per the topic over education and overadvancemen
    why someone is blaming young educted girls for all the mess?????
    whereas the main reason behind all this scenario is the lack of communication between childrn nd their parents.......because of which both r not abl to understand each other and their aspiratins
    we are what our parents have moulded us into... if the young generation is lacking in sanskaars the old generation is responsible for it............ to some extent

    they have provided the freedom without giving them proper knowlge about ...... what is right and what is wrong.........bandar ke haath me ustara dene se................ wt els wud u xpect??????

    wazirpur incdnt dikhata hai ki the chldrn hav gon wayward........ the parents hav no control over the actions of either boys or girls......

    bhaag jaana to last step tha..... ek young girl ki mother father nd brother why they were not aware of the initial wrong steps / company / interest of the girl?????
    does it not show that nobody paid attention to those girls...... aur may be those girls were not considerd gud enough for any kind of attention ....

    if u treat somebody like dirt it will react in the same manner.....
    jab use hawa milegi to aankho me isi tareh chubhegi........ use sir kaa taaz samajh kar rakhte to wo aapka naam roshan kartee......

    ravi kasana himself is a confused person............

    who is mixing up pride, education and advancmnt................
    he is against highr education but is flaunting his degrees very prominently everytime he opens his mouth...........( who can miss!!!!! Btec-Mechanical and MBA-International Bussiness????? )
    i dont want to get indulg in the muck he has created with his superior pseudo knowledge of ramayan, mahabharata, geeta and puraans but vichaar aur vichaardharayein human benefit ke liye banai jaati hai naa ki vichaaro ke liye human life ki hatya ki jaati hai
    koi bhi vichaar chahe kitna bhi mahaan ho kisi doosre ki hatya karne kaa adhikaar nahi deta.....................ye sahya samaaj ka kanoon hai aur kaanoon ki izzat naa karne waala koi bhi philosphr ek fraud aur bimaari ke siwa kuch nahi hai..................
    hume zaroorat apne aap ko bimariyo se bhi door rakhne ki hai.....

    Misha Gurjar

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  44. as per ur comment

    You & other ppl are much more talking abt this 21st century..i wanna ask u what this 21st century have given to us just all around crime..crime & only crime…Its not a development we are facing these days but a bloody demotion of the Values ,Sanskar ……………..humari Sanskriti or Shabhyata khatam karne mein iss 21st century ka bahut bada yogdaan rahega………..

    dear brother kasana..........sabhyata aur sanskriti ko 21century khatam nahi kar rahi hai.........vo to khud ek mook darshak hai is patan ki...........sabhyata unchii uthe ya gire samay to chalta hi rahega........... centuries aati aur jaati hi rahengi........isme iss bechaari ko dosh mat do............
    and as per ur query what 21 cntry has given us............it has given us a platform wher any tom,dick and harry can post his thoughts about anything under d sun..........

    it has made us to know that ravi kasana from village jaawli....has the potential to make thousand litre of blood to boil with your highly enlightened thoughts............

    brother i m really impressed by your knowledge of all mah.apuraans.............you have opened my eyes and i have decided to know about all this...........but how do we get it??????im sure u can suggest a good no. of books.......so that i can also suggest it to my friends and other ppl.
    brother i m a very obedient girl i will do as you say...........i will stop my kids from attending school and colleges...........till i find a good gurukul....buuuuuutttttttt and it is a very big but.........infact it is a reqst.......bhaiya hamare rehnuma mat ban na. hame aise hi apne vicharo se avgat karate rehna.............but please for god sake.......jan nayak mat ban na.............hum sab aapke bahut aabhari honge.........dhanya vaad.

    Nirmal dedha

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  45. Miss Misha,I am overwhelmed with the way you expressed ur views but only too some extent….

    Let clear one thing that no parents consider their children to be a dirt ,whether it is boy or a girl both are very special for their parents..so plz think before using such words…

    Miss Misha be it clear that I am not against any higher education but one shud not forget their Sanskaar & rituals that we have got from our ancestors. Education with out these Sanskaars or values is baseless thing we have which is of no use….Yes I am proud that I have so called Btech & MBA degrees in my hand but here the thing is that I have attained the said degrees without loosing the Sanskaars & Values that’s why I used to flaunt my degrees everytime …..

    It is clear that the social Gyan & knowledge that we have in the religious books like Mahabharta , Ramayana & Geeta is not everyone‘s cup of tea & wud not be come in the mind of so & so People who are greatly influenced under the westernisation traits, So it is worth to talk abt these Religious Gyan vardhak Book to such Ppl.

    Miss Misha, Kanoon …Insaaan or Society ke liye hota han na ki insaan or society kanoon ke liye………..so Kanoon ke rules & legislation Insaan or society ke hisab se hone chahiye…

    Yeh apka Kanoon hi han Jisne Afzal Guru Jaise Aatankwadi ko abtak bacha rakha han jisne na jane kitne beshara logo ko maut ke ghaat utaar diya tha……..

    Yeh apke hi desh ka kanoon han jisme Mohd. Kasab Jaise aatankvaadio ki safety or security mein har mahine crores rupyees kharach kar rahi han..yeh wo hi Kasab han jisne Mumbai mein na jaane kitne maasumo ki jaan li….on the other hand jo Humare soldier Kargil yudh mein apne pran nichavar kar saheed ho gaye unko ab tak apki iss govt. /or kannoon ki badolat ab tak bhi muawja nahi mila han………what a compliment ur govt /kanoon giving to our great soldiers….

    eh aapka kaanoon sirf paise walo ke liye han….Garibo ke liye nahi….
    So miss Misha, kiya baat han aap meri jaise soch rakhne walo ko ek Bimari se compare kar rahi ho…But I wud say Humare Samaaj mein sabse badi bimar wo log han jo apne samaaj,apne parents ke khilaaf kadam uthate han……Jinke liye unka Bloody Love hi sab kuch han na ki wo Jinhone unhe janam diya han….such ppl ruining the integrity of their parents they don’t have right to live in th society … Miss Misha ,Bimaar or fraud wo log han jo iss tarah ki meanless activities mein indulge hokar Gujjar Samaaj ki or apne parents ki pratishtha ,maaan or maryada ko dhool mein milate han or wo log bhi jo iss tarah ke logo ka sath dekar in logo ki pehervi karte han……..
    So miss Misha & all other who r opposing my views kabhi Samaaj mein jaakar betho…or itne door jaane ki bhi jarrorat nahi han aap apne ghar mein hi bade bujargo se samaajik pratishtha ke bare mein puchna ke kisi respectful man ke liye uske samman or izzat ki kiya ahmiyat hoti han….
    Miss miss Misha by ur comments its seems that u ppl don’t 9 much abt the gujjar & its history & its royality…so I suggest u ppl the following link plz go through this link u will finds a lot abt ur community …
    http://ashokharsana.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=gurjars
    http://ashokharsana.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=gurjars&action=display&thread=239Jai
    Gurjar Jai Bharat
    Ravi Kasana
    Vill & Post- Jawli
    Btec- & MBA

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  46. Miss Misha,I am overwhelmed with the way you expressed ur views but only too some extent….

    Let clear one thing that no parents consider their children to be a dirt ,whether it is boy or a girl both are very special for their parents..so plz think before using such words…

    Miss Misha be it clear that I am not against any higher education but one shud not forget their Sanskaar & rituals that we have got from our ancestors. Education with out these Sanskaars or values is baseless thing we have which is of no use….Yes I am proud that I have so called Btech & MBA degrees in my hand but here the thing is that I have attained the said degrees without loosing the Sanskaars & Values that’s why I used to flaunt my degrees everytime …..

    It is clear that the social Gyan & knowledge that we have in the religious books like Mahabharta , Ramayana & Geeta is not everyone‘s cup of tea & wud not be come in the mind of so & so People who are greatly influenced under the westernisation traits, So it is worth to talk abt these Religious Gyan vardhak Book to such Ppl.

    Miss Misha, Kanoon …Insaaan or Society ke liye hota han na ki insaan or society kanoon ke liye………..so Kanoon ke rules & legislation Insaan or society ke hisab se hone chahiye…

    Yeh apka Kanoon hi han Jisne Afzal Guru Jaise Aatankwadi ko abtak bacha rakha han jisne na jane kitne beshara logo ko maut ke ghaat utaar diya tha……..

    Yeh apke hi desh ka kanoon han jisme Mohd. Kasab Jaise aatankvaadio ki safety or security mein har mahine crores rupyees kharach kar rahi han..yeh wo hi Kasab han jisne Mumbai mein na jaane kitne maasumo ki jaan li….on the other hand jo Humare soldier Kargil yudh mein apne pran nichavar kar saheed ho gaye unko ab tak apki iss govt. /or kannoon ki badolat ab tak bhi muawja nahi mila han………what a compliment ur govt /kanoon giving to our great soldiers….

    Ravi Kasana

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  47. Yeh aapka kaanoon sirf paise walo ke liye han….Garibo ke liye nahi….
    So miss Misha, kiya baat han aap meri jaise soch rakhne walo ko ek Bimari se compare kar rahi ho…But I wud say Humare Samaaj mein sabse badi bimar wo log han jo apne samaaj,apne parents ke khilaaf kadam uthate han……Jinke liye unka Bloody Love hi sab kuch han na ki wo Jinhone unhe janam diya han….such ppl ruining the integrity of their parents they don’t have right to live in th society … Miss Misha ,Bimaar or fraud wo log han jo iss tarah ki meanless activities mein indulge hokar Gujjar Samaaj ki or apne parents ki pratishtha ,maaan or maryada ko dhool mein milate han or wo log bhi jo iss tarah ke logo ka sath dekar in logo ki pehervi karte han……..
    So miss Misha & all other who r opposing my views kabhi Samaaj mein jaakar betho…or itne door jaane ki bhi jarrorat nahi han aap apne ghar mein hi bade bujargo se samaajik pratishtha ke bare mein puchna ke kisi respectful man ke liye uske samman or izzat ki kiya ahmiyat hoti han….
    Miss miss Misha by ur comments its seems that u ppl don’t 9 much abt the gujjar & its history & its royality…so I suggest u ppl the following link plz go through this link u will finds a lot abt ur community …
    http://ashokharsana.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=gurjars
    http://ashokharsana.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=gurjars&action=display&thread=239Jai
    Gurjar Jai Bharat
    Ravi Kasana
    Vill & Post- Jawli
    Btec- & MBA

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  48. Miss lakshita, u ppl dont 9 even a single word abt Gurjars & its PPl....
    Farooque Abdullah had done two marriages one with Gujjari & another one frm some one else & sara abdullah is a daughter of her Gujjari Mother & Gujjar father...so no dout in it.... In end its worth talking to u all guys coz all r under the influence of westernisation....

    regards
    Ravi Kasana

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  49. haan we dont know anything ...........................................u r so gyani...................................aap apne gyan batane ke liye satsang dena kyoun nahi shru karte.................................................................yahan aapke pravachan aapke alawa sunne main koi interested nahi hai.........................................thanx fr sharing ur gyan with us

    Lakshita

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  50. Ravi bhai please unless untill u r not sure on the caste of Mr Farruq Abdulla plz dont cast him as a gurjar,,,,,,,,,,,I bet on that,if u prove he is gurjar i'll do what u will say,,,,,,,,,,,, Farruq Abdulla is a member of paliament & his name is not in the list of gurjar MP in INDIA, Plz visit the site u had mention for better knowledge of gurjar community, of Mr, harshana ji's.............


    & the most importent

    The act which is wrong is only wrong" u cant say it right,

    There is a challenge for u, I belongs to Seelampur Village in Delhi & if u Found a single person in my village who had did inter-caste marrige, then u will stop this argument at this point instently,,,,,,, & the ratio of educated people in my village is far better then jawli........

    My self live in london for more then 2yrs,,,,,, I had not forgot my values & hopefully m more educated then u r........

    Plz galat ko galat mat kaho.........


    or in bekar ki baaton ko na karte hue aap khud ko galat baat ke liye sahi nahi bata sakte............

    Jai Hind
    Please u should take initiative to stop this meaningless arguments..........
    I hope further, there will be a responsible action will be taken by u.......

    Thanks & Best Regards
    Jai Hind

    Vikas Chaudhary

    MBA (IIPM DELHI)
    MA ECONOMICS (London School Of Economics)
    DEPLOMA IN RISK MANAGEMENT (HDFC BANK)
    BSC (COMPUTER SCIENCE)

    SEELAMPUR DELHI

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  51. Bhai Vikash there is no dout that ppl who get their education from abroad are considered to be much n much more educated frm the ppl who hav got their education from their home country………… After all it’s a play of wealth….

    I strongly condemned the way u r comparing my villages with urs…& showing that ur ‘s village is superior frm all other Gujjar‘s villages…..It ‘s obvious & tendency of a human that always he appreciate his belongings & hiss attachments & take other one into the negative way….

    Well my dear friends vikash, we have many relatives in ur village seelampur... & having relation with late sh. Balraaj who was a well known face in our Gurjar community & sh, Subhash

    For your instance, our Village is a well known face in the field of education :-
    1) Late sh. Harbir Singh Kasana who had put his entire life in serving the society with their Teaching skills & enlightened the path of education globally with his tremendous efforts & he awarded with many awards internationally ( see his contribution in the following two communities – Harbeer Kasana & H.S Kasana)
    2) Chd Ranveer singh Kasana was a senior most Scientist in NASA space centre ….
    3) Mr Dhyan singh Kasana , retired IAS 1972 batch is too having their roots in Jawli…
    4) In Delhi Govt.‘s school & colleges mostly Gurjar Teachers are from our village.
    5) And in Delhi Police 70% Gujjar cops are from Jawli
    Above All Mr Madan Bhaiyya a Law Graduate who is a well known face & a trade mark of Gurjars community too hailed from our village Jawli. But I bet u all ppl too oppose this man……………..
    Bhai Vikash my village is full of so & so examples so mere bhai vikash its worth to degrade the impression of Jawli…………


    Ravi Kasana

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  52. MISHA IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT .....................MR KASANA PLZ DONT SHOW OFF UR DEGREES ND THEN BLAME MODERN EDUCATION FR EVERYTHING..........................ND FR UR KIND INFORMATION AM NT A FOUNDER OF MODERN EDUACTION SO DONT WRITE MY NAME EVERYWHERE ..

    Lakshita

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  53. mr. ravi kasana................
    mujhe lagtaa hai itnaa opposition dekh ke aap confused ho chuke hai
    aapko pata nahi chal raha hai ki aap kis baat ka favour kar rahe hai aur kis baat ko oppose kar rahe hai.......
    aapki maani jaaye to har cheez hamaree sabhyata ko kharaab kar rahi hai chahe wo education ho chahe movies, kanoon, politics, blog likhne waale log aur youth to hai hii

    aapke hisaab se hume fir se pashaan yug me chale jaana chahiye kyuki wahan par ye sab cheezein nahi thi......

    main poochna chahti hu ki ye sab kuch dekhne ke baad aap apne baccho ko colg ya school to nahi bhejenge.......... unka tv dekhna bhi allowd nahi hoga aapko.....shaayad

    khair aap jo kuch bhi karein apni lyf ke baare me....... ur problem
    wt i hav objection to is that you hav degraded every boy and girl who goes to colg.......
    and you feel that u r the only one who knows about gurjar history and culture.....
    the thing is...... we know that is why we have adopted gurjar surname

    i am a proud gurjar girl who is proud of her upbringing, her education , her parents, her gao, her community and her country
    and i know my sanskaars very well and i believe that i m not the only girl who is as sanskaari and virtuous as i am............ there are thousands and thousands of gurjar girls who are better than lakhs and lakhs of such educated gurjar boys......

    unhe aap jaise aadhunikta virodhi ,taalibani ladko se character certificate nahi chahiye............aur na hi vo aap jaise samajhdaar logon ki parwaah karti hain.
    baat sirf itni hai ki aap baukhlaye huey hain ye dekh kar ki ladkiyan itni independent kyun hui..........maaf karna aap rok nahi paoge chahe ise aadhuniktaa ki aandhi keh lo yaa koi aur naam de do...... aapka kaam sirf door khade hokar saamp ki tareh fann peetne ka hai.....haan ek aad ladki agar aapki pakad me aa jaaye to aap araam se use das sakte hai... jaise monika and her cousin........ mind you every girl here is against intercaste marriage but more than dt we are against ur special thinking

    Misha Gurjar

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  54. Miss Misha,
    Aapki Jaankari ke liye Mata Seeta ka opposition bhi puri ayodhya ne kiya tha jabki wo sachai ke marg per thi…. So yeh to yugo yugo se chalta aa raha han ke sahi baat ko oppose karne ke liye hazaro or lakho khade ho jaate han..so it is not justified to write ke mein confused or bokhlaya hua hoon…..
    Actually main thing is that ke mene apne Gujjar community ki ladkiyon ki jarrorat se jyada azaadi per sawaal uthaya han to ppl like u are much afraid & using “ saap” jaise word to criticize my views coz tum logo ke pass mere kahin hui baato ka sahi or justifiable jawaab nahi han ….Or rahi rokne ki baat, to aaj ki nayi generation itni advance or fast han han ke wo hum jaise logo se to kiya apne parents se bhi nahi ruk rahi han… or aise log pachim pachim karte hue iss diniya se ruksat ho jaate han or yeh paschimi sabhyata se un logo ko kuch bhi haasil nahi hota…..

    Miss Misha,Jo aajkal ki movies mein jo deekhaya jata han kiye wo dekhne layak han….? Aajkal ki generation jo filmo mein dekhti han wo hi cheez apni life mein implement kar rahi han..tabhi Humare Desh ka ,Humare Gurjar Samaaj ka Beda Garag ho raha han…so dear misha no need to favour such movies that shows only useless things that are ruining our culture, & traditions…..or be it clear ke I am opposing only such education jisme sanskaar or Value naam ki cheez nahi han….

    Dosto mene ab tak jitney bhi comment diye han un sabhi mein apne Vicharo ko Sache udharno ke sath aap sabhi ko samjhane ki koshish ki han or aap sabhi ne jo bhi Pucha han un sabhi ke sahi se justifiy karke un sab ka jawab dene ki koshish ki han ……..But Don’t know ke jo mein aap logo se apne comments mein sawaal puchta hoon unke answer aap log kiyon nahi dete han…..kiya mein samjhu ke aap logo ke pass unke jawab nahi han jo aap mere puche gaye sawalo ko skip kar rahe han..so friends Mere comments ka jawab diya karo otherwise yeh discussion useless or outcome less han……….

    Jai Gurjar Jai Bharat

    Regards
    Ravi Kasana
    Vill & Post- Jawli

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  55. The Name You Are Taking Late Ch, Balraj Singh. He Was My GrandFather, For Your Kind Information, He became The Law Graduate In 1955.


    Live all things apart,,,,,,,,
    & tell me what's wrong with our community, why the youngsters doing inter-caste marriage, & the people like you are become the thekedar of whole community to take initiative of notorious honor killing.............

    Why don't u understand that Honor killing is not the solution to stop inter-caste marriage..........

    & Again if you favor that honor killing i will oppose you........ until you say yourself, that honor killing is not the solution for this problem..........Solution we have to found in any ways..............& obviously again i must say Honor killing is not the solution for stop inter-caste marriage.......


    I m agree with you, in your area Madan (MLA) is the strength of gurjar community but as he is the law graduate, He had also broke those laws which he had learn from his education..........& the whole community is calling as the gangstar.........thats also a true........& you must know this........

    Mere Bhai Aapki sab baatey Badi Karta hu par jo galat hai vo sirf galat hai........
    Ummid karta hu aap meri baat ko samzhoge or sahi disha me sahi kadam uthane ki koshish karoge.............

    Mere Bhai Ho sakta hai Ki meri GK Thodi Kamzor ho or aapko muzhse zyada GK aati ho, par aap jawab hi un baato ke maangte ho jinka is samsya se koi lena dena nahi hai............


    Sita maa ke baare me jitna aap jaante ho utna hi mai bhi jaanta hu or baaki sabhi bhi jaante hai,,,,,,,,

    Ab mai ek baat aapko batata hu jiske upar bhi hum ek lambi debate kar sakte hai,,,,,,,

    "YAJURVED" Says, Leave 7 generation of Father & 3 generation of mother for marriage,

    Ab aap is baat ko kaise kahoge ki "YAJURVED" me jo likha hai wo galat hai...........

    "OSHO" Says, Love marriage is the best way to get married for a wonderful new breed.......

    OSHO bhi shayad galat bolta hoga,,,,,,,,,,

    "SWAMI DAYANAND SARASWATI" He was fighting for his whole life in against of cast ism, He said broke the barrier of caste & get married in between all castes for a better INDIA.......

    Vo bhi shayad galat the..........

    In "MAHABHARAT" Abhimanyu Was the son of subhadra & Arjun & you must know by relation arjun & subhadra both were brother & sister,,,,,,,,,,,,Lord Krishna was in favour for this marriage..............



    Mere bade bhai,,,,,,,,,,,this debate will never end............... kissa khatam karo...........kahaniyan likhni band karo


    or jo sahi hai vo kaho...........

    The formar CM of Rajesthan Ms, Vsundhra Raje Scindhiya herself is a Rajput, She got married in a Jat Family, & His Son Was got Married with a Gurjar Girl..........


    Bhai jo ho raha hai vo galat ho raha hai,,,,, chahe vo antar-jatiye vivah ho ya honor killing dono galat hai........

    Bhai agar kuch galat lage to plz zarur batana,,,,,,,,,,,,your suggetions are allways importent for us..........

    Jai Hind
    vikash chd

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  56. RAVI BHAI,
    The Name You Are Taking Late Ch, Balraj Singh. He Was My GrandFather, For Your Kind Information, He became The Law Graduate In 1955.


    Live all things apart,,,,,,,,
    & tell me what's wrong with our community, why the youngsters doing inter-caste marriage, & the people like you are become the thekedar of whole community to take initiative of notorious honor killing.............

    Why don't u understand that Honor killing is not the solution to stop inter-caste marriage..........

    & Again if you favor that honor killing i will oppose you........ until you say yourself, that honor killing is not the solution for this problem..........Solution we have to found in any ways..............& obviously again i must say Honor killing is not the solution for stop inter-caste marriage.......


    I m agree with you, in your area Madan (MLA) is the strength of gurjar community but as he is the law graduate, He had also broke those laws which he had learn from his education..........& the whole community is calling as the gangstar.........thats also a true........& you must know this........

    Mere Bhai Aapki sab baatey Badi Karta hu par jo galat hai vo sirf galat hai........
    Ummid karta hu aap meri baat ko samzhoge or sahi disha me sahi kadam uthane ki koshish karoge.............


    Jai Hind

    vikash chd

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  57. RAVI BHAI,
    Mere Bhai Ho sakta hai Ki meri GK Thodi Kamzor ho or aapko muzhse zyada GK aati ho, par aap jawab hi un baato ke maangte ho jinka is samsya se koi lena dena nahi hai............


    Sita maa ke baare me jitna aap jaante ho utna hi mai bhi jaanta hu or baaki sabhi bhi jaante hai,,,,,,,,

    Ab mai ek baat aapko batata hu jiske upar bhi hum ek lambi debate kar sakte hai,,,,,,,

    "YAJURVED" Says, Leave 7 generation of Father & 3 generation of mother for marriage,

    Ab aap is baat ko kaise kahoge ki "YAJURVED" me jo likha hai wo galat hai...........

    "OSHO" Says, Love marriage is the best way to get married for a wonderful new breed.......

    OSHO bhi shayad galat bolta hoga,,,,,,,,,,

    "SWAMI DAYANAND SARASWATI" He was fighting for his whole life in against of cast ism, He said broke the barrier of caste & get married in between all castes for a better INDIA.......

    Vo bhi shayad galat the..........

    In "MAHABHARAT" Abhimanyu Was the son of subhadra & Arjun & you must know by relation arjun & subhadra both were brother & sister,,,,,,,,,,,,Lord Krishna was in favour for this marriage..............



    Mere bade bhai,,,,,,,,,,,this debate will never end............... kissa khatam karo...........kahaniyan likhni band karo


    or jo sahi hai vo kaho...........

    The formar CM of Rajesthan Ms, Vsundhra Raje Scindhiya herself is a Rajput, She got married in a Jat Family, & His Son Was got Married with a Gurjar Girl..........


    Bhai jo ho raha hai vo galat ho raha hai,,,,, chahe vo antar-jatiye vivah ho ya honor killing dono galat hai........

    Bhai agar kuch galat lage to plz zarur batana,,,,,,,,,,,,your suggetions are allways importent for us..........

    Jai Hind
    vikash chd

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  58. @ vikas
    i agree wid u brother..........
    you hv very clearly put ur thoughts in words .........
    and i think there is no use streching this topic beyond the limit........

    what is disgusting is that a person frm same cmmnty nd same age grp itself is blaming the rest of the community youth....such people who are suffering frm pompous ego and pseudo intellect are the one who are instrumental in bringing the so called patan and bantadhaar of gurjars.

    whereas i dont believe and see that gurjar community is heading for disaster..... mujhe to lagtaa hai raja mihir bhoj ke swarn kaal ke baad yehi golden period hai gurjar community ke itihaas me jab itne jyadaa padhe likhe susikshit sambhraant well placed gurjar poore hindu samaaj me respect paa rahe hai.....apne aapradhik kahe jaane waale kalank ko dho kar hum main stream me naa sirf ghul mil gaye hai balki lead kar rahe hai.... but..... some regressive pepl who hav nt gt the chance to improve their educational and social position who are still reeling in mental backwardness talk about justification of criminal activities on behest of one pretence or other.... they hav picked up some inspirational quotes but don't know wher to fit thm.....are tryng to be the mouth piece of the whole community.. this is very very unfortunate.....

    such ppl need befitting replies frm one and all.............. so that they cm to know that today's gurjar youth is more progressive than a handful of stinking sick peopl

    Misha Gurjar

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  59. dear Ravi
    there is lot of difference in todays time and Mahabharata and Ramayana times .
    in that time people follow that they are saying the word is called at that time VACHAN or PRAN or PRTIGYA .
    many eg. of that Bhisam pitamah spend his full life unmarred .
    one another very good scarifies GANDHARI who spend her full life with a bandage on her eyes only reason is that her husband blind .thats the sprite those type of people gives inspiration to follow what you
    In Ramayana ram goes 14 years vanwaas after saying of his father to follow his father vachan.and his younger brother not sit on seat of raja of ayodhaya for 14 year thats time are different.
    In todays time people are selfish they do only that thing which give them personal satisfaction and befit .

    IN intercaste marriage-
    above person give eg. of Vasundra raje and family from Rajsthan .
    i want say that politician and businessmen can do anything for personal benefit they use there relation for votes and business, so live them.
    Every community opposing the intercaste marriage why????????
    why our oldies and others opposing it.
    i want to give hare two reason thats my personal opinion.
    1.Pride and honor
    2. mismatch in culture
    in pride and honor if a gujjar girl or boy get merry herself or himself in the cast like chamar ,bangi,teli,nai,khatik,bhihari,bangli etc .thats oppose to our pride and honor .
    it sounds bed.
    In mismatch in culture if gujjar boy and girl marry in from south Indian from other cast or from other country etc.-----they start comparison of living eating stranded and others thing result not good or divorce which is a first step of a educated girl .
    .
    i am fed up with cast and gotra specially gotra can anybody told me what is a logic to categories these gotra

    I WANT TO SAY ABOUT HONOR KILLING ONE THING ONLY "BULLET IS NOT A SOLUTION OF ANY PROBLEM"

    Narender Pradhan

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  60. Dosto yehi to difference han dilli ke or UP ke Gujjaro mein .....Dilli ke Gujjaro ke liya Life hi sabkuch han samman unke liye kuch bhi ahmiyat nahi rakhta han… bilkul Gandhi wadi soch han doosre log kuch bhi ahit kar jaye per rahenge Gandhi wadi hi or UP ke Gujjaero ke liye sammman Jindagi se bhi bada hota.han .. aise jeevan ka kiya fayda jo kalank or apmaan se bhara hua ho aisi jindagi se to Samman ke sath maut hi Bhali han....or Dosto aisa pehle nahi tha..kabhi Samman humare dilliwale Gujjaro ke liye bhi sabkuch hua karta tha.......per ..per Punjabi culture Jinmey unka apne Samaaj ke logo se jyada uthna bethna han to yeh lazmi han ke soch bhi Panjabiyo jaise ho gayi han......Bhai vikash theek han ladkiya mera oppose kar rahi han kiyonki mene unki jarurat se jyada azaadi per seedha vaar kiya han...to inhe to problem honi hi thi ...per my dear Brother Vikash mujhe aap jaise ek Padhe Likhe Gujjar Ladke se aisi umed nahi thi ke wo mera oppose karenge ...yaar humare cast mein to Gujjar ladke aise hi hote han agar koi humari Bheno or Betio ko nazar uthakar bhi dekhe to usse kat ke fek diya karte the or yahi karan tha ke pehle kisi ki bhi himmat nahi hoti thi humari izzat per hath dalne ki.. ..but dont 9 aajakal ke Gujjjaro ke ladke Bilkul apne swabhav ke viprit hote jaa rahe han ...tabhi doosri community ke log humari cast ke izzat per hawi hote dekhai de rahe han...to Bhai Vikash humari Kom ka to kaam hi yehi han ke galat kaam ko jad se hi khatam karna or hum iss tarah ki meanless activity ko Gandhi wadhi soch se kabhi bhi khatam nahi kar sakte han....iske liye hume do or die wali vikalp ko apne jeevan mein dalnkar Hitler jaisa banna hoga ....

    Dosto yeh Bihari or doosri kom ke log jinki aukat humari community ke saamne zero han or yeh log din dahade kisi bina khof ke humari aankho ke saamne se humare bhen betio ko Bhaga kar le jaa rahe han or hum inki itni tarafdaari kar rahe han… …Tarafdaari kiya Inki ek Trah se Aarti utari ja rahi han very same on us …tabhi innki itni Himmat ho rahi han ki Gujjar kom ki izzat per hawi ho rahe han..To Bhaio agar hume apni Bheno ko bachana han to inn saalo ke dauda dauda kar kaatna chahiye…..Tab hi inke pata lage ke Gujjar cheez han kiya…..
    or dosto aap baar baar thekedari ke baat kar rahe ho ke mene kiya sabka theka le rakha han....to dosto mein apko ek cheez clear kar deta hoon yeh meri thakedari nahi han yeh mera mere community se hardcore Lagaav han kein mein iske samman per thesh nahi Bardasht nahi kar sakta hun..or isme kuch kuch bhi galat nahi han….. & I 9 its very well ke yeh humari ladkiya jo yahan mera se oppose kar rahi han they all r modern out look girl they don’t understand the deepest thing in my words….But Bhai Vikash aap to Ladke ho why don’t u Understand ke Gujjaro ke liye samman hi sab kuch hota han……

    Regards
    Ravi Kasana
    Vill & Post- Jawli,Ghz

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  61. Dosto yehi to difference han dilli ke or UP ke Gujjaro mein .....Dilli ke Gujjaro ke liya Life hi sabkuch han samman unke liye kuch bhi ahmiyat nahi rakhta han… bilkul Gandhi wadi soch han doosre log kuch bhi ahit kar jaye per rahenge Gandhi wadi hi or UP ke Gujjaero ke liye sammman Jindagi se bhi bada hota.han .. aise jeevan ka kiya fayda jo kalank or apmaan se bhara hua ho aisi jindagi se to Samman ke sath maut hi Bhali han....or Dosto aisa pehle nahi tha..kabhi Samman humare dilliwale Gujjaro ke liye bhi sabkuch hua karta tha.......per ..per Punjabi culture Jinmey unka apne Samaaj ke logo se jyada uthna bethna han to yeh lazmi han ke soch bhi Panjabiyo jaise ho gayi han......Bhai vikash theek han ladkiya mera oppose kar rahi han kiyonki mene unki jarurat se jyada azaadi per seedha vaar kiya han...to inhe to problem honi hi thi ...per my dear Brother Vikash mujhe aap jaise ek Padhe Likhe Gujjar Ladke se aisi umed nahi thi ke wo mera oppose karenge ...yaar humare cast mein to Gujjar ladke aise hi hote han agar koi humari Bheno or Betio ko nazar uthakar bhi dekhe to usse kat ke fek diya karte the or yahi karan tha ke pehle kisi ki bhi himmat nahi hoti thi humari izzat per hath dalne ki.. ..but dont 9 aajakal ke Gujjjaro ke ladke Bilkul apne swabhav ke viprit hote jaa rahe han ...tabhi doosri community ke log humari cast ke izzat per hawi hote dekhai de rahe han...to Bhai Vikash humari Kom ka to kaam hi yehi han ke galat kaam ko jad se hi khatam karna or hum iss tarah ki meanless activity ko Gandhi wadhi soch se kabhi bhi khatam nahi kar sakte han....iske liye hume do or die wali vikalp ko apne jeevan mein dalnkar Hitler jaisa banna hoga ....

    Ravi Kasana

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  62. Dosto yeh Bihari or doosri kom ke log jinki aukat humari community ke saamne zero han or yeh log din dahade kisi bina khof ke humari aankho ke saamne se humare bhen betio ko Bhaga kar le jaa rahe han or hum inki itni tarafdaari kar rahe han… …Tarafdaari kiya Inki ek Trah se Aarti utari ja rahi han very same on us …tabhi innki itni Himmat ho rahi han ki Gujjar kom ki izzat per hawi ho rahe han..To Bhaio agar hume apni Bheno ko bachana han to inn saalo ke dauda dauda kar kaatna chahiye…..Tab hi inke pata lage ke Gujjar cheez han kiya…..
    or dosto aap baar baar thekedari ke baat kar rahe ho ke mene kiya sabka theka le rakha han....to dosto mein apko ek cheez clear kar deta hoon yeh meri thakedari nahi han yeh mera mere community se hardcore Lagaav han kein mein iske samman per thesh nahi Bardasht nahi kar sakta hun..or isme kuch kuch bhi galat nahi han….. & I 9 its very well ke yeh humari ladkiya jo yahan mera se oppose kar rahi han they all r modern out look girl they don’t understand the deepest thing in my words….But Bhai Vikash aap to Ladke ho why don’t u Understand ke Gujjaro ke liye samman hi sab kuch hota han……

    Regards
    Ravi Kasana
    Vill & Post- Jawli,Ghz

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  63. My dear sister Nirmal, Its my personal request to u plz don’t be so angry…..agar apko lagta han ke mere comments ne kuch jyada hi sachai ko ujaagar kar aaj ki nayi generation ki poll ko khol diya han to heartily sorry for that…….

    And sister Nirmal , 21st century ka koi dosh nahi han centuriya to aayengi or jaayengi dosh to hum jaise logo ka han jo isse wrong way mein le jaa rahe han or badnaami hoti iss bechari 21st century ki…& it also feel sister Nirmal ke aap kuch jyada hi mujh se impressed han to theek han mein khud hi ek Spiritual or Religious Vidhalya ka nirman ke baaare mein sochta hoon but but..Be it clear ke Uski Principal apko banna hoga or Teachero mein opposition wali party ke sabhi log honge jinme sabse pehle naam hoga miss Misha ji ka or miss Reena bidhuri ka,,thn we will appoint miss lakshitaji,Nupur ji..thn humare administrator honge humare Bhai Vikash Chd ji,…Agar aap log chaho to hum apne chahete Bhai Sheel Gurjar ji ko bhi ek Mehtpurn Pad de sakte han . jo ki Director ka hoga ………..shayad ho sakta han ke jab aap jasie mahanubhav social skill full adhyapak gan sanchalan karta honge to mera vidhyalya ko char chand lag jayenge ho sakta han tabhi humari yeh nayi generation Sanskaar or dignity ke maiyno ki sahi paribhasha samajh sakti han.,,,,

    Gurjar Hiteshi
    Ravi Kasana
    Vill & post-Jawli

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  64. dear brother kasana.....................
    i do not agree with ur views.................this was d first line of my first communication with you......and incidently it is also the first line of my last communication with you.

    how i wish you had been sitting before me so that i could have given you the treatment you deserve.....................

    tumhare gyaan ke hum kaayal ho gaye .humne tumhe pehle hi bata diya....tumse maine ek reqst ki thi bade pyaar se .haath jod kar ....ki bhaiyya tum hamare rehnuma mat ban naa............kaha tha naaaa?????????? ab main ise tumhaari purush vaadi soch kahun ya tumhare adh kachre gyaan ka ghamand ki tum ek to school kholne chal diye........doosra principal bhi mujhe hi bana rahe hooooooooo.......

    tum ravi kasana bhai ,ek baat sach sach batao...............akal se paidal ho kyaa???????
    pehli baat ladkiyon ke forum me kya karne ayye the?????
    doosri baat ..............tumne views maange humne tumhe oblige kar diya............maine tumhe bataya tha na ki v r very obdient...............saaf saaf bata diya bhai tumhare vicharon se hum sehmat nahi hain...............tumne dekhi apni gustakhi...............tum sirf yahi chhoti si baat seh nahi paaye.........aur kitna baukhlaa gaye...........aur har ladki ko to tumne galat bana hi diya har ladka jo is baat par tumhe toke wo hi tumhara dushman ho gaya....................what is this brother.....??????????
    i m an english speaking lady......d so called educated one..........yes i am under western influence.......i watch western movies ......sing and like western songs.....hav put on westrn dresses..............inspite of coming from a middle class back ground........ but brother i m not suffering from any complex.........just like you i dont brag about my gaaon mera desh mera itihaas..........but because i do not beat my dhol does not mean i m lacking in it...........because i m bindaas does not mean i m wrong.............

    tum shukr manao tum saamne nahi ho yeh ladkiyan tumhaari kya gat banati.....tum soch bhi nahi sakte.

    par tum kaunsa darte ho in ladkiyon se..........in ladkiyon ko sabak sikhana aur kis language me sikhana hai tumhe acchhii tarah pata hai...........infact tumhari thekedaari hai..................kasana mere bhai............tumne degree to le li par educated nahi huey.

    educated hone ka matlab hai apne se ittefaq na rakhne vaale logon ke vicharon ki bhi kadar karna.........vicharon ke matbhed mein asli mudde ko na bhulana.......aur is dharti par janam lene vaali sabhi aatmaaon ko parmatma ka hi roop man na...........paap hatyaa nafrat loot chahe vo vicharon ki ho dhan sampada ki ya adhikaar ki.....se door rehna.
    bhaiyya tum jo kar rahe ho use ati kraman kehte hain..........apne shuudh vichaaron se naa kewal apne apni vishuddh vichardhaara ko aggressively thopne ki koshish ki hai...
    aapne hazaron maasoom ladkiyon ki maan haani bhi ki hai.........case to aap par chalna chahiye par jaao tumhe cchhod diya...........goojrii dil aur dimaag dono se badi hain.
    tum agar samajhdaar hoge to ishaara samajh jaaoge.................iss se jyaada ghaas tumhe kisi bhi forum par nahi daali.......... bahut hua ab reham karna apni chhoti chhoti nasamajh bahno par.........bhaiiya maaf karo ...aagey

    nirmal dedha

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  65. dear brother kasana.....................
    i do not agree with ur views.................this was d first line of my first communication with you......and incidently it is also the first line of my last communication with you.

    how i wish you had been sitting before me so that i could have given you the treatment you deserve.....................

    tumhare gyaan ke hum kaayal ho gaye .humne tumhe pehle hi bata diya....tumse maine ek reqst ki thi bade pyaar se .haath jod kar ....ki bhaiyya tum hamare rehnuma mat ban naa............kaha tha naaaa?????????? ab main ise tumhaari purush vaadi soch kahun ya tumhare adh kachre gyaan ka ghamand ki tum ek to school kholne chal diye........doosra principal bhi mujhe hi bana rahe hooooooooo.......

    tum ravi kasana bhai ,ek baat sach sach batao...............akal se paidal ho kyaa???????
    pehli baat ladkiyon ke forum me kya karne ayye the?????
    doosri baat ..............tumne views maange humne tumhe oblige kar diya............maine tumhe bataya tha na ki v r very obdient...............saaf saaf bata diya bhai tumhare vicharon se hum sehmat nahi hain...............tumne dekhi apni gustakhi...............tum sirf yahi chhoti si baat seh nahi paaye.........aur kitna baukhlaa gaye...........aur har ladki ko to tumne galat bana hi diya har ladka jo is baat par tumhe toke wo hi tumhara dushman ho gaya....................what is this brother.....??????????
    i m an english speaking lady......d so called educated one..........yes i am under western influence.......i watch western movies ......sing and like western songs.....hav put on westrn dresses..............inspite of coming from a middle class back ground........ but brother i m not suffering from any complex.........just like you i dont brag about my gaaon mera desh mera itihaas..........but because i do not beat my dhol does not mean i m lacking in it...........because i m bindaas does not mean i m wrong.............

    tum shukr manao tum saamne nahi ho yeh ladkiyan tumhaari kya gat banati.....tum soch bhi nahi sakte.

    Nirmal Dedha

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  66. par tum kaunsa darte ho in ladkiyon se..........in ladkiyon ko sabak sikhana aur kis language me sikhana hai tumhe acchhii tarah pata hai...........infact tumhari thekedaari hai..................kasana mere bhai............tumne degree to le li par educated nahi huey.

    educated hone ka matlab hai apne se ittefaq na rakhne vaale logon ke vicharon ki bhi kadar karna.........vicharon ke matbhed mein asli mudde ko na bhulana.......aur is dharti par janam lene vaali sabhi aatmaaon ko parmatma ka hi roop man na...........paap hatyaa nafrat loot chahe vo vicharon ki ho dhan sampada ki ya adhikaar ki.....se door rehna.
    bhaiyya tum jo kar rahe ho use ati kraman kehte hain..........apne shuudh vichaaron se naa kewal apne apni vishuddh vichardhaara ko aggressively thopne ki koshish ki hai...
    aapne hazaron maasoom ladkiyon ki maan haani bhi ki hai.........case to aap par chalna chahiye par jaao tumhe cchhod diya...........goojrii dil aur dimaag dono se badi hain.
    tum agar samajhdaar hoge to ishaara samajh jaaoge.................iss se jyaada ghaas tumhe kisi bhi forum par nahi daali.......... bahut hua ab reham karna apni chhoti chhoti nasamajh bahno par.........bhaiiya maaf karo ...aagey jaaoo..............!!!!!!!!!!!

    Nirmal Dedha

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  67. par tum kaunsa darte ho in ladkiyon se..........in ladkiyon ko sabak sikhana aur kis language me sikhana hai tumhe acchhii tarah pata hai...........infact tumhari thekedaari hai..................kasana mere bhai............tumne degree to le li par educated nahi huey.

    educated hone ka matlab hai apne se ittefaq na rakhne vaale logon ke vicharon ki bhi kadar karna.........vicharon ke matbhed mein asli mudde ko na bhulana.......aur is dharti par janam lene vaali sabhi aatmaaon ko parmatma ka hi roop man na...........paap hatyaa nafrat loot chahe vo vicharon ki ho dhan sampada ki ya adhikaar ki.....se door rehna.
    bhaiyya tum jo kar rahe ho use ati kraman kehte hain..........apne shuudh vichaaron se naa kewal apne apni vishuddh vichardhaara ko aggressively thopne ki koshish ki hai...
    aapne hazaron maasoom ladkiyon ki maan haani bhi ki hai.........case to aap par chalna chahiye par jaao tumhe cchhod diya...........goojrii dil aur dimaag dono se badi hain.
    tum agar samajhdaar hoge to ishaara samajh jaaoge.................iss se jyaada ghaas tumhe kisi bhi forum par nahi daali.......... bahut hua ab reham karna apni chhoti chhoti nasamajh bahno par.........bhaiiya maaf karo ...aagey jaaoo..............!!!!!!!!!!!

    Nirmal dedha

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  69. when smbdy suggst smthng as to kill any individual life or even to ban anybody else freedom ................this is being atrocious and talibani.
    jab tak aap ladkiyon ke liye alag maapdand aur ladko ke liye freedom ki baat karoge uska virodh hoga...............kyonki ladkiyan sirf virodh hi kar sakti hain
    purush vaadi samaj me nirnayak aap log hi hain.agar koi ladki galti kar de to,aap jaise thekedaar use maar dalenge, ghatak soch ka ek hi aadmi dasiyon beesiyo ladkiyon ka khoon kar apni life ko samaj ke liye kurbaan kar mutthi bhar samaj sudharko ka hero ban sakta hai{taalibani yehi kehte hainaur karte hain} .......mai aur mere jaisi soch jiski aap log itni hikarat se dhajjiyan uda rahe hain har roj galiyon aur chauraho par kaat daali jaati hai aur aap claim bhi kar rahe hain ki ladkiyon ki freedm bardasht nahi ki jaayegi................kab se kab tak.????????seeta ji ko nahi baksha........anusuya ..meera,,,,,,,,ye sab bhi galat thin kyaa???????????
    aap chalan hamara badal doge ......badalne ki taakat rakhte ho...........at least in ladkiyon ko apne mann ki keh to lene do..............sun ne ka to dhairya rakho........dil dimag vyavhaar kahi to in ladkiyon ko hak do..............jyaadtiyon ki kahiin to limit apne liye bana kar rakho.........
    radical vicharon ke har aadmi ko pehle apne man main imaandari se ye puuchhna chahiye ki apni insecurity ke liye aap kitni bali chadhaaoge ....kahii ladkiyon ko dahej kam laane ke liye maar do ...kanhii ladkiyo ko dahej se bachne ke liye...........samaj sudharako apni aane vaali generation ki itni fikr hai unke liye to ladkiyan cchhod do!!!!!! hazaaron ladkiyon ko jab kokh me hi maar dene se samaj khatam nahi hua to ikki dukki ladki ke cast se bahar jaate hi saari jaati ka astitva ek dum khatre main kaise aa jaata hai..............??????????????...................sharam karo!!!!!!!!!!

    apni chhoti mansikta aur ghinuani soch ko kam se kam naam to asli de do.tumhe kisi ka bhi khauff nahi hai....... kam se kam kuchh shareef log jo in baaton se ittefaq nahi rakhte unko to samaj main jeene do!!!!!!!

    ladkiyon ka ek galat kadam saari community ke khatre ki ghanti hai........aur ladkon ki galat harkat poori community ke liye pride ki baat hai????????????? yeh baat kucchh hazam nahi hoti...........but who cares???????? why should we??????????/ hum ladke hain.........

    tum vishwaas kar lo maan lo prachar kar lo............hum nahi maan sakte..........and nobody can force the girls to believe that............

    nirmal dedha

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  70. HONOUR kILLING..!! among gurjars
    intercaste marriage should be stop or Ben completely in gujjar community .
    HONOUR kILLING already stop by this.
    if Ben not possible then boys can marriage with the permission of there parents (GIRLS NOT ALLOWED for that)
    because if a bridge comes in gujjar family ,then she become a part of gujjar.
    if a gujjar girl go outside the community ,then she become a part of other community.
    which is a symbol of shame for royal history of gujjars

    Narender Pardhan

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  71. Bhen Nirmal,If u PPl compare all my said words with all ur opposition party‘s words u will get the answer ke who is making GAT of whom…………..
    Bhen Nirmal, I know it well that my said words are Much real & true that are directly attacking the Over Independence of the girls tht they are getting these days…..Thats the Biggest reason u Girls don’t want me to write any further & not interested for further more communication…..I don’t have any problem with that coz I know well that u ppl don’t have enough courage to face my true hardcore words & Real Gyan Bhari Vaani that will helps u all in attaining the Salvation /Mukti ka Dwaar……So Here in this forum or community I am just wasting my time with u ppl…….


    Bhen Nirmal make this thing clear that not only in this gujjar girl community but in every community that relates with Gujjars all of there I have placed my views in order to rectify mentality of such ppl who don’t know ke what these values so called pride/honour play in a life of a respectful men in a society…buts it’s a coincidence ke out of thm I have got response from u ppl ..& moreover u r the same ppl who have invited me forcefull by honouring me with hard core words like “Coward” …But when u PPl finds ke aapki modern thoughts ki naav mere kahe hue sache Gyaan ke vajah se
    Doobti jaa rahi han to u ppl wants me ke mein iss forum se Bahar chala jaun & I know it well ke Sachai hamesha Kadwi Hoti Han & U ppl don’t have courage to face it any more…

    …Friends ,Its been a nice conversion with u all ….So my dear friends By By to All 4 forever with a hope tht all of u gets the sucesss in ur life

    With Best Wishes

    A Gurjar Hiteshi
    Ravi Kasana
    Vill & post- Jawli,GHz

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  72. Bhen Nirmal,If u PPl compare all my said words with all ur opposition party‘s words u will get the answer ke who is making GAT of whom…………..
    Bhen Nirmal, I know it well that my said words are Much real & true that are directly attacking the Over Independence of the girls tht they are getting these days…..Thats the Biggest reason u Girls don’t want me to write any further & not interested for further more communication…..I don’t have any problem with that coz I know well that u ppl don’t have enough courage to face my true hardcore words & Real Gyan Bhari Vaani that will helps u all in attaining the Salvation /Mukti ka Dwaar……So Here in this forum or community I am just wasting my time with u ppl…….


    Bhen Nirmal make this thing clear that not only in this gujjar girl community but in every community that relates with Gujjars all of there I have placed my views in order to rectify mentality of such ppl who don’t know ke what these values so called pride/honour play in a life of a respectful men in a society…buts it’s a coincidence ke out of thm I have got response from u ppl ..& moreover u r the same ppl who have invited me forcefull by honouring me with hard core words like “Coward” …But when u PPl finds ke aapki modern thoughts ki naav mere kahe hue sache Gyaan ke vajah se
    Doobti jaa rahi han to u ppl wants me ke mein iss forum se Bahar chala jaun & I know it well ke Sachai hamesha Kadwi Hoti Han & U ppl don’t have courage to face it any more…

    …Friends ,Its been a nice conversion with u all ….So my dear friends By By to All 4 forever with a hope tht all of u gets the sucesss in ur life

    With Best Wishes

    A Gurjar Hiteshi
    Ravi Kasana
    Vill & post- Jawli,GHz

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  73. My vote goes to Ravi Kasana......
    have to accept the determination of this guy....
    alone determined in crowd.....
    well done buddy.........

    Marshal Suryavanshi

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  74. My vote too goes against Inter-caste system guys...,
    I am also agree with you Ravi...

    But Suresh too is right because it is very difficult to make another agree with you...
    hum jitna marzi lecture de lein, jitne bhi sahi kyun na hon....
    but to convince others about that truth is too very difficult......

    Thus agar kisi ko suggestions acchhe lagen toa theek hai, maan lo nahi toa bhaiyon yahan kaun kisko sudhaarne aur samjhane ya check karne ke liye kisi ke paas jane wala hai...

    by the way, why dont you people check "Gurjar Community's Gift to You" forum in this community....
    pot your comment there yaar, have a positive entertainment....

    Partihara Inborn

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  75. jamana badal gaya hai bhai bachche jaise maahol me palenge aur badhenge unpar uska asar to padega hi.Ab gurjar family cities me bhi rehti hai to vaha ke culture me ghul mil kar hi rehna padta hai isliye bachche bhi vaise hi khyalo k hote ja rahe hai.Par ye bade hi sharm ki baat k hamare bachche other casts me bina soche samje marriage kar lete hai.Shayad hamari nai pidhi me sanskaro ki kami hoti ja rahi hai..............Save our community

    Dajsh Choudhary

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